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CTF kit idea: Elf Intro Description Elves' leveling Dwarves Arrows Teaming Swords Comment on what you think of it. Do you think it's good? Bad? Improvements? Edited by user Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:13:16 PM(UTC)
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It will easily die even with the leather armor. I like the idea of countering Dwarfs because right now there is almost no way to kill a level +20 Dwarf that is paired with a medic. Edited by user Saturday, August 04, 2012 9:49:22 AM(UTC)
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Well, it can sneak attack people and take them down. The point of the swords is to push them back and do damage, so they can't hit you, if your team keeps doing that, (knocking them back and shooting them) then you can easily take them down. |
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Originally Posted by: dragonoid244  Any feedback? I just read this and I love the idea. Two many times have I shouted in the chat to the random teammates that never work together. A team of three elves could control a postion very well, keeping the enemies at bay with Knockback and their powerful bows. Only thing I would change is to give them higher tier armor, leather isn't really sufficient for a class that will at some point get down and dirty with the enemy. Pyros can have leather because they can 1 hit people, but I think Elves should have an iron/chainmail mix or something, maybe leather/diamond if that would fit better. Overall this is a great idea!
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Thanks for the feedback, and i'm on it :D. I will soon have it updated. |
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Alright now they have 6 armor points which is decent for combat. If i needs to be less it will be 5. What do you think? |
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Tbh this class is made for teamwork intention, but the leveling up thing will most likely be whoever gets the kill right? Meaning that the elves would rather solo in order to get stronger gear. For a solo class this class is far too weak. Also, people rarely team even though teaming is the smartest possible thing to do in ctf. In order for groups to appear, this class would have to be a free class, which is unlikely because there have always been only 4 free classes. I'll say more when you've fixed that :p |
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6 armor points should be fine. It needs to be below soldier and heavy 7.5 and 10, but above archer and medic, off hand I don't know how many they have, but I think its lower than 6 plates.
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Originally Posted by: Saixos  Tbh this class is made for teamwork intention, but the leveling up thing will most likely be whoever gets the kill right? Meaning that the elves would rather solo in order to get stronger gear. For a solo class this class is far too weak. Also, people rarely team even though teaming is the smartest possible thing to do in ctf. In order for groups to appear, this class would have to be a free class, which is unlikely because there have always been only 4 free classes. I'll say more when you've fixed that :p First for your first question, no. The radius is so theres not a "team" that doesn't work together and get the kills anyway. I've been thinking about fixing the solo thing too. I was thinking of having 2 leveling charts, one for going solo, so its easier to level up, and one for going teaming. That way elf soloists will still be powerful. This class would beast on free play day, and hopefully that will incourage some to buy this. The main point i was trying to make is, CTF is supposed to be a team game, however, everybody goes solo. The reason for this is because there are not classes that are combat oriented and team oriented. This class would bring both. The second 2nd leveling chart will be up soon. What i'm saying is people need to learn that soloing is not the only way in life. When people run a company in life they wil understand that. The world is working because we have gotton together as countrys and helped each other out. I'm making this comparison because it is a very decent one. Hope that gives you enough info to say more. |
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Soz, first part was an oversight, didn't remember it after reading this class yesterday :/ More team classes need to exist, definitely. But I still don't like the leveling system much :/ Maybe it's just me, but I know I'd be pissed if a ninja or a pyro snuck up on me when I was at max level :3 |
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Yea i see your point, but necro is the same way isn't it right? With necro you can get blazes, then sneakattacked while changing your spawner. You just have to be quick with this class. |
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Why do you think I dislike necro? :3 |
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Originally Posted by: Saixos  Soz, first part was an oversight, didn't remember it after reading this class yesterday :/ More team classes need to exist, definitely. But I still don't like the leveling system much :/ Maybe it's just me, but I know I'd be pissed if a ninja or a pyro snuck up on me when I was at max level :3 Thats a good point, what if as long as one member of the team was alive, they kept their level?
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Thats actually a pretty good idea.. OR, how about if you teammate is within 20 blocks when you die, your level is halved, so you don't loose all, but you still only have to do half of what you did before. |
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Seems like a great kit but i think the leather armor is a bit weak (as other have said) i think they should spawn with a mix of iron and leather and be able to level it up a bit :D
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I changed it so they get a diamond chestplate, which significally changes it from 3 1/2 armor points to 6. Thats the same as archer. |
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That armor level should be perfect, as archer I've beaten heavies in 1v1 with the unenchanted stone sword, with the enchanted one it should be much easier, and do able against heavies with a bit of skill. Maybe 4 pieces of steak would be better than the three you have suggested, because a common theme I see with the classes is the worse the armor, the more the food. Heavies have diamond armor and 3 steak, soldiers have iron and 4, archers have chainmail and 5, etc. Four or five steak should be good to go with the lower armor rating.
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A good thought. 4s decent. |
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I think its a great idea! You stole my idea for elf though. XD (i even had the speed in mind.).
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I don't really see the point of this class... It would be sort of cool to play but it looks too much like the Scout idea which was suggested by Involute. Also this class is extremely underpowered at the moment... Why? You can get headshotted, you don't have a clue against soldier/heavy and even pyro and ninja can kill you easily. You don't seem like you looked it up somewhere, so I'll tell you: 2 hearts of arrow damage is nothing. A fully charged bow with no enchantments does 4.5 hearts of damage, which is half a heart more then after reaching level 20. In addition, what do you do at the beginning of the game? I don't think you even have a slight chance of leveling up because you have no sword. And you can't do anything about dwarfes because I personally don't prefer standing still as a dwarf when an elf comes near and wants to kill me and after lvl ~10 it could be instant killed. Maybe sounds harsh, but I would spend more time thinking about this idea. Edited by user Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:00:18 AM(UTC)
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The point is, 5 charged arrows can insta kill any prey. That way you can at least take down 3 enemys till you get a sword, then use the "hit n run" technique to get some more. If you are all starting elves in a team of 3, you can get alot too, taking down enemys by shooting 2-3 times each. It sounds UP, but if you think about it, the people who play archer would love this class, because it requires even more skill. If you think its UP, then ok! You don't have to buy it if it comes out. |
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You should have a rose and a yellow flower. Right click another member of your team with the rose and they are notified that you want to team up, and their name turns pink or cyan, whatever color you are. Other teams are either burgundy or purple. Use the yellow flower to unteam. That way elves can know what their teams are, and can level up. |
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I honestly think that this class would be a great class and would be very fun to play as, I hope this could be a class chosen to be in CTF sometime soon! Nice job Dragonoid. |
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Quote: because the only two team classes are medic and chemist if used right. Engineer,anyone? But anyway, this class might need a slight buff, but it is a great idea. |
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate it. What I could do is make it so they start with another leather piece. What do you guys think? |
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Start them with full leather maybe and have the Diamond Chestplate as a reward maybe? Giving a class that doesn't have the one hitting power of Assassin or Ninja just one or two pieces of leather armor doesn't seem very fair.
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Hmm, thats actually a really good point. I'll have to change some thins, but yea, it will be better. |
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Originally Posted by: SSBreloom  I don't really see the point of this class... It would be sort of cool to play but it looks too much like the Scout idea which was suggested by Involute. Also this class is extremely underpowered at the moment... Why? You can get headshotted, you don't have a clue against soldier/heavy and even pyro and ninja can kill you easily. You don't seem like you looked it up somewhere, so I'll tell you: 2 hearts of arrow damage is nothing. A fully charged bow with no enchantments does 4.5 hearts of damage, which is half a heart more then after reaching level 20. In addition, what do you do at the beginning of the game? I don't think you even have a slight chance of leveling up because you have no sword. And you can't do anything about dwarfes because I personally don't prefer standing still as a dwarf when an elf comes near and wants to kill me and after lvl ~10 it could be instant killed. Maybe sounds harsh, but I would spend more time thinking about this idea. I am changin the arrows.... Don't worry. Thanks for the feedback. Originally Posted by: mrmcgoo  You should have a rose and a yellow flower. Right click another member of your team with the rose and they are notified that you want to team up, and their name turns pink or cyan, whatever color you are. Other teams are either burgundy or purple. Use the yellow flower to unteam. That way elves can know what their teams are, and can level up. Good idea!! I'll add it right now :D. |
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Dwarfs have been countered i kill them as an assassin they have no chance,,, i like the idea of a team unit i think i have an an idea ELF (HEHEHHEHEHEHEHE) CAN LVL UP OTHER UNITS (making them non self sustaining dwarfs :) THAT SHOULD DO IT |
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Changed arrow data, check it out its very useful. |
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Seems like a really cool idea for a class. I agree that we need more classes that level up and/or have a bow. The "Teaming" function seems like a really cool idea. Maybe, hitting a dwarf could be an insta-kill, like that archers can kill chemists with one hit. |
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Buffed the bows power, the arrow data will be updated soon. |
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I think that this class seems WAY too powerful, If you want admins to put this class into CTF (which I would like) I think you should make the diamond chest plate thing at max lvl instead of at an early lvl, this would make it even enough, I'd buy it right away if it came out....
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How so?? Is the bows power too much?? I can bring it back down. |
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One question. Do the bows have the headshoting ablility? |
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Nope, that would be an op archer... |
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IDK if anyone wants to consider this anymore, but from the community it was apparently a great idea. |
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Originally Posted by: dragonoid244  IDK if anyone wants to consider this anymore, but from the community it was apparently a great idea. #1 Posted : 5 months ago |
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The main purpose of the kit is to counter Dwarf. We have Assassin for that now, so I don't think Elf is really needed (although its a cool idea). |
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I think its cool but instead of looking like a pryo how about a leather helmet and the rest chain mail
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I don't like the leather armor or steak, no kits should start with armor in my opinion. |
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Originally Posted by: TyDK  I don't like the leather armor or steak, no kits should start with armor in my opinion. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB THIS IS A CTF CLASS. |
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Originally Posted by: Paulb01  Originally Posted by: TyDK  I don't like the leather armor or steak, no kits should start with armor in my opinion. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB THIS IS A CTF CLASS. Oh lol, It said "kit" idea. |
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Tydk, its a class. Paul what do you think about it?
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When I first read this it seemed like a takeoff of dwarf, but instead starting of weak needing teammates for support, and gets extremely powerful. It's basically a fast dwarf but levels up on kills. But I agree on more teaming classes though!!!! Although engineer... (yunocallitateamingclassbro?) |
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I Really like this Idea. There are to few classes in CTF. maybe add these as lvl ups: 1. Knockback arrow/bow 2. Gain arrows from kills 3. Maybe resistance to headshot (down to 1/2 heart instead of death) 4. Fire resistance
I really hope this gets turned into a class. Thx :)
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Honestly I love the idea... I always thought we need another class that has bow for a main weapon other then just archer.
I normally can kill any dwarf no matter of level with ninja medic or not, but this idea would just be fun to play with.
I've always kinda wanted a team type class other then medic... I always thought of maybe a buff class that gets strange depending on amount of players are in certain distance of you. I like this idea though.
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Originally Posted by: Rawrness  Honestly I love the idea... I always thought we need another class that has bow for a main weapon other then just archer.
I normally can kill any dwarf no matter of level with ninja medic or not, but this idea would just be fun to play with.
I've always kinda wanted a team type class other then medic... I always thought of maybe a buff class that gets strange depending on amount of players are in certain distance of you. I like this idea though. To make ppl being interested in teaming, just put a v/d ratio in their stats :D, that will drive them crazy for teaming, CTF needs new classes but I don't support this one |
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It's a good idea but even though the idea of a counter to kill dwarfs would be handy you can still kill a dwarf with ninja. All you need is some Invisibility and a ninja sword. I do like the idea of this but it would be to easy to kill. -DarkDragonTamer Edited by user Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:07:53 PM(UTC)
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I personally think CTF doesn't need any more classes. If mcpvp adds another CTF class, they will probably have to nerf every other class to make the new class have a chance of surviving. |
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Originally Posted by: dragonoid244  Thanks guys. Keep bringing the feedback. Stop bumping this. All that needs to be said is said. |
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Originally Posted by: jacob1998  I personally think CTF doesn't need any more classes. If mcpvp adds another CTF class, they will probably have to nerf every other class to make the new class have a chance of surviving. Why not just make the class as powerful? |
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I re-read this, and i quite like it. I do think the sword should be a tad better, maybe iron. Anything under iron is just a joke to a heavy. |
While the capturers get the fame, he stays back and wins it on defense. He's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protecter. A dark knight |
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