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#1 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:26:28 AM(UTC)
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Kit Ideas!

1. Templar!

A holy warrior who gains strength through gold

So the Templar gets the affects of a diamond sword, through a gold sword. Simple.

Pros!
-Strong attacks with a gold sword
-Feast Potential
-Solo team Potential
-Team potential

Cons!
-Gold swords only have 33 durability, which is about 1/7 of an iron sword
-Would have to find the more precious gold
-Might not have enough gold to last the whole game

Good with:
-Cultivator (Food)
-Endermage (Tele someone up then kill them with a "diamond sword")
-Urgal (Strength)
-Scout (Could play as an assassin role with the speed boost)

Counters:
-Monk (Disable the gold sword, they are a normal player)
-Chameleon (Sneak up on a Templar when he doesnt have enough time to react)
-Boxer (Makes the gold sword act like an iron one due to the damage reduction)
-Chemist (Weakness Potion counters out the gold sword)


2. Duelist (Not as good of an idea)

The Duelist is a fighter who revolves around getting in the heat with one person at a time

The Duelist has a "mark" that he places on the current player he is fighting with that allows only the targeted enemy to damage him and no one else. When the targeted enemy dies the mark is also removed allowing others to fight him until he hits another player. If he switches targets the mark also switches. If the Duelist is out of combat, the mark disappears.

Pros!
-Good at taking out teams when you would otherwise lose
-Unique kit that could win games if played smart
-Can counter out some "nuker" classes such as: CookieMonster, Assassin, Stomper
-Solid Kit throughout the whole game

Cons!
-He can be taken out if snuck up on by a nuker class.
-No advantage in a one versus one fight

Good With:
-Urgal (Strength)
-Cultivator (Food)
-Vampire (Get health potions to heal between enemies)

Counters:
-Pyro (Fire isn't player damage)
-Viper (Poison ticks still apply if he switches targets)
-Thor (Fire damage is effective, lightning isn't)
-Anyone with a bow (Keeps the Duelist off them)
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Edited by user Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:52:38 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Nerfing Duelist so he cannot just run into feast with the mark on a buddy.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:39:39 AM(UTC)
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templar is WAY overpowered but duelist is ok as long as your only fighting 1v1
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#3 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:45:02 AM(UTC)
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duelist.. pick a team mate, teammate hides and then at the feast walks casually to the chests no one can attack and gets all the good stuff and walks back to the freind and then they attack everyone else with better weapons and armour
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#4 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:51:34 AM(UTC)
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I would see that being a problem, how about after 5 seconds of being out of combat the "mark" disappears. That would fix the problem.

Also, why does Templar seem op? It only has 33 durability and it is only 1/2 heart more damage.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:51:18 AM(UTC)
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I like Templars because gold is rare so most would spend time mining but yeah pretty good :D
I like to team with people if u want to team ask me if ur onctha same server after the bloodbath
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#6 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:58:55 AM(UTC)
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Templar is actually one of the best kit suggestions I've seen in a while. It's powerful, but checked not only by how hard it is to get gold, but also how easy it is for the sword to degrade in but a single stew fight.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:52:51 AM(UTC)
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Are you copying my King Midas?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:31:47 PM(UTC)
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King Midas? I'm sorry, I haven't heard of that before, I am pretty new to the forums. But if you already had an idea I'm sorry but I didn't intentionally take your idea. What is King Midas anyways?
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#9 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:48:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Parkertate Go to Quoted Post
King Midas? I'm sorry, I haven't heard of that before, I am pretty new to the forums. But if you already had an idea I'm sorry but I didn't intentionally take your idea. What is King Midas anyways?


Well I had an idea called King Midas that is QUITE different from yours, but a similar idea. A golden sword has sharpness I effect, and wearing golden armour has a protection 3 effect. Hitting someone with a gold sword has 1/8 chance to turn their armour to gold for 15 seconds.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:24:08 PM(UTC)
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Protection III sounds like a lot, but it actually isn't worth it. If someone gets full gold armor that is Prot 12 (3 x 4) which will 56% reduced damage but full Iron armor is 60%. So that is under powered, even at Prot IV it is the same as Iron armor, not better. And a sharpness I gold sword is the same as a stone sword, half a heart worse than iron. It is a downgrade.

But, the 1/8 chance gold armor is somewhat good, but it is about luck, which is why viper isn't a huge success.

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#11 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 4:46:42 PM(UTC)
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#12 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 12:25:37 PM(UTC)
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Man I hate to bump but I like these Ideas :/
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#13 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 12:34:26 PM(UTC)
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Templar is good but I suggest you need full gold armor in order to get the affect, otherwise it is too easy.
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#14 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 7:38:18 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Parkertate Go to Quoted Post
Kit Ideas!

1. Templar!

A holy warrior who gains strength through gold

So the Templar gets the affects of a diamond sword, through a gold sword. Simple.

Pros!
-Strong attacks with a gold sword
-Feast Potential
-Solo team Potential
-Team potential

Cons!
-Gold swords only have 33 durability, which is about 1/7 of an iron sword
-Would have to find the more precious gold
-Might not have enough gold to last the whole game

Good with:
-Cultivator (Food)
-Endermage (Tele someone up then kill them with a "diamond sword")
-Urgal (Strength)
-Scout (Could play as an assassin role with the speed boost)

Counters:
-Monk (Disable the gold sword, they are a normal player)
-Chameleon (Sneak up on a Templar when he doesnt have enough time to react)
-Boxer (Makes the gold sword act like an iron one due to the damage reduction)
-Chemist (Weakness Potion counters out the gold sword)


2. Duelist (Not as good of an idea)

The Duelist is a fighter who revolves around getting in the heat with one person at a time

The Duelist has a "mark" that he places on the current player he is fighting with that allows only the targeted enemy to damage him and no one else. When the targeted enemy dies the mark is also removed allowing others to fight him until he hits another player. If he switches targets the mark also switches. If the Duelist is out of combat, the mark disappears.

Pros!
-Good at taking out teams when you would otherwise lose
-Unique kit that could win games if played smart
-Can counter out some "nuker" classes such as: CookieMonster, Assassin, Stomper
-Solid Kit throughout the whole game

Cons!
-He can be taken out if snuck up on by a nuker class.
-No advantage in a one versus one fight

Good With:
-Urgal (Strength)
-Cultivator (Food)
-Vampire (Get health potions to heal between enemies)

Counters:
-Pyro (Fire isn't player damage)
-Viper (Poison ticks still apply if he switches targets)
-Thor (Fire damage is effective, lightning isn't)
-Anyone with a bow (Keeps the Duelist off them)
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I don't like how gold sword is equal to a diamond sword. Gold is much easier to come by in HG than diamonds.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:27:02 PM(UTC)
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But thats the point, and gold is still much more rare than iron so it could take a while to get. It is only half a heart stronger than iron and it has 33 hits on it.
Another downside is that if you break a block with a sword it removes 2 durability so if you break some tall grass it lasts little time.
It could be demolished in a single fight.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:34:25 PM(UTC)
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It's called x-ray, with all the hackers, the templar will be so OP.

Good fight.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:10:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: -->TheMR921<-- Go to Quoted Post
It's called x-ray, with all the hackers, the templar will be so OP.

Good fight.


And? Xrayers always get advantages, this is no different
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